By
Justine -
If
you do not want to read about chickens used for meat, you may want to skip over
this post. I am an omnivore and I eat meat, and enjoy eating meat. If I am
going to eat it, I am going to raise it if possible, and know that what is on
my plate has had a wonderful life full of adventures and fresh air. I will not
send my birds to the butcher either. I want them to spend their very best and
the one bad moment here at our farm. It is less stress on the birds in the end,
and that is my feelings on the subject.
So
please, if you are vegan or vegetarian move along… Don’t read this… Unless you
are looking for proof that chickens for meat can be raised humanely. They also
can be killed humanely – and that to me is of the very highest importance. We
are thankful for every bite of chicken we take. We know that the animal did not
live in vain. They were raised with love and care and strict attention to
detail in their management.
I
feel a very strong urge to advocate for all the abundant misinformation about
the common broiler chickens and their apparent disturbing behaviour everyone
seems to go on about.
Here
are some of the many labels I often see associated with the Cornish Cross (CX):
- Disgusting
- Ugly
- Smelly
- Lazy
- Can’t walk (leg issues)
- Won’t forage..
- Lie in their own filth
- Organ failure – heart attacks common
- Stupid
- Tasty (*this one is true*)
What
some folks may not know is that all of the above issues have to do with
improper management! If your CX are disgusting, smelly, lazy, spending much of
the day sleeping in their own filth before dying of heart failure, it is improper
husbandry that is the issue, not the Cornish X!
The
feeding guides shown online make my jaw drop. No wonder people complain about
birds that are laying around, pooping every 5 seconds and sleeping in it. The
instructions on raising the CX have mislead so many people. All the falsity is
overwhelming. Threads on other chicken forums with the titles like: Cornish
X’s = Nastiest birds EVER, do not help their case either.
Last
year I had written off the hybrid as a Frankenchicken based on all the info I
read online. I was dead-set against raising them on my free range only farm. I
didn’t want to have birds penned up for their entire life... I heard that they
can’t/won’t free range… I put my foot down… Until I saw one video that made me second guess
everything I’ve read about prior. Maybe they can free range and be chickens
after all? I might as well give it a shot… If they don’t pan out, I can at
least say I tried, right?
This
is MY experience
with the hybrid better known as the Cornish Cross, CX or Meat Kings.
This
is a week-by-week summary.
Week One and Two (Days 1 – 13)
I
had a rough time with them from day 1 to 14 It was extremely humid and
incredibly hot.. we had a run in with Cocci and lost 7 CX and 10 Red Sex Ling
(RSL) chicks. We did not treat for cocci, but offered electrolytes (Stress Aid)
the day after we noticed low movement and puffiness despite the heat.
They
went quickly. Here in Canada you can not get Amprol without a vet’s
prescription. It took me 48 hours to get my hands on some, and by that time the
electrolytes really perked them up. The strong survived. After they were on
grass, the birds were golden. No more illness (save one) who I moved back in
and gave Amprol (the only one that was ever dosed). Chick was fine within 2
days and back out with everyone.
Two Weeks (Day 14-20)
I
opened the pop door and let them out. I continued to offer electrolyte water because
of the heat being so stressful on the chicks. I found the first week they
really didn’t go very far. They could not understand the concept of going BACK
INSIDE at night. I had to pick each chick up and place inside the pop door
(this includes the red sex link chicks).
Three Weeks (Day 21-27)
Finally
the CX are spreading out and returning to the pen at night on their own. Real
feathers coming in. They are a good 3 times the size of their hatch mates (the
red sex link layers).
Four Weeks (day 28-34)
Really
good at foraging now. They run as soon as they hear the back screen door slam
shut. They want treats. They are getting closer and closer to my neighbour’s
property line.
Five Weeks(day 34-40)
Almost
100% feathered out. They are passing our property lines and ranging two acres
now. I do not like to watch them eat. They inhale food. I do love watching them
forage though, and they are very active. As soon as the pop door is open they
are off.
Six weeks (day 40-46)
Not
much change since week five for experience. They have grown some. They are
ranging exceptionally well. No leg injuries save one I accidentally jammed in
the sliding door of the barn. She will be the first processed. Haven’t lost a
single one since cocci outbreak.
See video proof of my CX birds free ranging @ 6 weeks (with other heritage birds, goats and rabbits). Many of them run like Phoebe on Friends
Seven weeks (day 47-53)
I
processed the girl with the injured leg. She was limping, but still got around.
I didn’t want it to get any worse so she was processed along with three others.
They were too small at this age. Roughly 3 pounds. We were going to do ten, but
after seeing the first four gutted and weighed, we decided against it.
Eight weeks (day 54 – 60)
This
is when most would start processing the CX. I figured they are still getting
around very well, so I’ll give them a little longer. May do the boys at 9
weeks.
Nine Weeks (day 61-67)
They
were hogging all the food at feeding time from EVERYONE, so we processed the
largest 10 boys at 9 weeks old. Averaged out about 4.5 pounds. Largest was 5
pounds, smallest was just under 4. Much more breast meat seen than at 7 weeks.
10-11 Weeks (day 68-81)
This
picture is at almost 11 weeks – I have 28 left to process. 4 are boys, 24
girls. Two of the girls look very small. I think I may keep them to laying age.
A strict feeding regime is important to do this. I want to see what they will
give out when bred to a Heritage Plymouth Rock. I know they don’t breed true.
At
12 weeks of age (88 days old) we processed 26 chickens - 22 pullets and 4
cockerels. You can see them in this video at that age. They were still
extremely active and a good size. After they were processed (neck, feet and
wing tips off) they averaged 5.5 pounds each. Smallest over 5 pounds, largest
over 6. One chicken can feed 8 no problem (unless you are feeding teenage boys).
All
in all I loved my experience with the CX. They are not the monsters
you read about throughout the meat bird forum elsewhere.
What they are:
- active,
- intelligent
- healthy
- friendly
The
poop smells like poop. The smell is indistinguishable from any other breed of
chicken I have raised. It smells like poop. Keeping the litter dry and
practising the deep litter method surely helps. If it is very humid out, I find
Stable Boy helps greatly with the smell. They do poop bigger than other
chickens their age because they EAT more.
If
they are not allowed access to full feeders at all hours of the day, they will
go on a mission, searching high and low for all of the food that our beautiful
mother nature has to offer them. They are amongst the best foragers I have ever
witnessed.
The
only negatives I have noted is that they are food aggressive, so ample feeder
space is required. They also do eat extremely fast and to watch them is not
pleasant. It’s like watching a starving animal inhale their offerings twice a
day. No matter what, they always seem to be hungry. They are not starving.
Don’t let them trick you into feeding them at all hours because they INSIST
they are starving. I don’t buy it.
- Justine-
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Leigh Says:
So
as you can see, when the Cornish Cross is kept in a healthy, natural setting
where it is allowed to free range daily, the health issues we so often hear
about are practically nonexistent. The birds kept in industrial settings create
an amazingly stark contrast to the picture Justine has painted – The birds that
generally end up in large supermarkets live their lives in crowded broiler
houses where the only exercise they get is moving from the food to the water.
They don’t have access to sunlight or fresh greens, and their health suffers
for it.
*
I really appreciate the week by week account of raising your Cornish X. I've read other posts & forum threads that also show that these birds can be raised cleanly & humanely. Thank you for adding your experience to the others out there.
ReplyDeleteSo we have a question :) Besides free-ranging, how did you offer their chicken feed? It looks like you didn't leave it out available to them all day. Did you feed them 2x a day? Some details in your feeding pattern would be great help. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteJustine fed limited amounts 2ce a day.
DeleteAnd do you feed them Flock Raiser? We'd like to have some Cornish Cross next spring.
ReplyDeleteWe feed them starter (unmedicated) with scratch grains. :)
DeleteDo you ferment this? Approximately what ratio of starter to scratch?
DeleteWe are thinking about raising some broiler chickens next year and I'm looking at ways to cut our feed costs. Our chickens will be in Polyface Farm-style chicken tractors on good pasture.
Justine does soak/ferment the chicken feed.
DeleteThanks again. This IS inspiring and makes me look forward to trying some meaties as soon as I have adequate housing for them next spring.
ReplyDeleteI want to try some as well in the spring. This was VERY useful info! Thanks!
ReplyDeleteDo you find that on unmedicated feed that they grow a little slower? We are raising Cornish for market birds at our local 4H fair, we feed unmedicated fermented grower. Our chicks are considerably smaller than our friends who use medicated starter. We are afraid they won't make weight for the fair.
ReplyDeleteStarter has a higher protein ratio than grower and will account for the size difference.
DeleteHmmm... no - in fact they should be growing a bit faster with the fermented feed and lack of Amprolium in their systems. Are you free ranging them? This would probably be why they are growing slower - they are getting more of a workout and relying on bugs.
ReplyDeleteRaising chickens *naturally* and raising chickens to make market weight are two different things. That's not to say you can't sell birds that have been raised naturally and organically, but it does take longer.
If you are not free ranging, then boost their feed intake, make sure there is no kahm yeast in your ferment (they don't like it - see our Fermented Feed tab at the top if you have questions about this) and check them for parasites. Ground pumpkin seeds will help naturally rid them of parasites.
Thanks for you reply.
DeleteThey are slightly less than three weeks, so not free ranging yet. They are about about half the size of my friends birds which came from the same place on the same day as mine. Right now I don't see them making the 2 lb. @ 5 weeks lower limit for sale at the fair. One of the largest ones was only 1/3 lb. at 14 days. They seem to like the food, they inhale it when I set it down. I had one of those closed top chick feeders with the head holes, they seemed to have a hard time getting all the food out of that, now that I've taken the top off, they clean it out.
I'm not worried about the slower growth, but I don't want to disappoint my kids that they can't sell them if they don't make weight.
Should the pumpkin seeds be whole or shelled?
Honestly, at their age parasites shouldn't be a problem. Check under their wings and look for lice / mites. If they don't have any, just make sure they are getting plenty of food. For fairs and the need to make weight, you don't want to limit their feed. If they are having a hard time with the fermented feed, sprinkle dry on top to encourage them to eat more.
DeleteThanks
DeleteAnother thought just crossed my mind. We get our feed from a farm that we trust, but its possible they accidentally gave us layer ration instead of grower ration. The bags aren't marked, so can't say for sure. I'm assuming that would stunt growth, would it cause any other issues?
DeleteThat is a possibility. It won't hurt them, but they won't grow as fast. They do much better with all the extra vitamins and nutrients present in grower feed. :-)
DeleteThank you for all your help!
DeleteMost animals on big corporation farms are fed antibiotics to actually increase their weight gain. If the others are feeding medicated feed that makes since especially if they are feeding medicated grower feeds because they will include things in their specifically for growth and weight gain. sorry im so late in replying, I JUST saw this.
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